tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017008788024248921.post6712054675127166973..comments2023-10-17T08:03:20.685-07:00Comments on Kinyn Chronicles: Angels and Nephilim and other Biblical Beings in Fiction - CSFF Blog TourUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017008788024248921.post-84506341739581340892012-08-21T14:50:32.172-07:002012-08-21T14:50:32.172-07:00Interesting take on the angels. They seemed a lot ...Interesting take on the angels. They seemed a lot more akin to Tolkien's elves than angels as I think of them.Jeff Chapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08374806472853391788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017008788024248921.post-82954282978073139082012-08-20T19:55:22.108-07:002012-08-20T19:55:22.108-07:00Thanks for the comments, everyone!
Thanks for sh...Thanks for the comments, everyone! <br /><br />Thanks for sharing your viewpoint, Keanan! It may have been someone else, but I THINK Card argued (regarding "apples" etc.) that if, as an example, the apple-like fruit actually has a notable difference or societal function from our apples--such as if apples turn into bananas when they rot, or if people worship apple trees as gods--then it is good to use the different term. I personally think it enhances the speculative element if these renamed items (or people's perception of them) ARE different than our versions in some interesting way, but obviously the idea's up for debate. I find a lot of fantasy more complicated than I like, but obviously the target audience loves it!<br /><br />Becky, I'm impressed you shared certain concerns but overcame the angel barrier better than I could! I'm not a FAN of Harry Potter exactly, but I did enjoy the 5 books I read before I understand they kind of stopped editing. ;) I guess I was able to compartmentalize Rowling's wizards versus real ones because Rowling's are very different from the witches and wizards in our current world, and (rightly or wrongly) I tend to see the old wizards like Merlin as fictional/mythological instead of threatening. Though, fictional wizards or not, I have no fantasies of enrolling in Hogwarts...magic spells just don't interest me that much. Internal powers like mutants, on the other hand, I adore. Magic in CHRISTIAN speculative fiction...that sure is a debate!<br /><br />I also wanted to clarify (not in response to anyone) that alternate readings of Genesis 6 say the "sons of God" are not angels. Given the use of Nephilim in the book, however, I assume the angel interpretation is either Henley's actual view, or at least what she is "speculating" on in this book, so that's what I meant by that reference.Julie Bihnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16694252260205949341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017008788024248921.post-32699767669785743412012-08-20T17:50:05.800-07:002012-08-20T17:50:05.800-07:00Julie, I don't know if you're a fan of Har...Julie, I don't know if you're a fan of Harry Potter or not, but I've argued before that the wizards in Ms. Rowling's imaginative world are not in any way real wizards. They are constructs of her imagination. I read the angels of Ms. Henley's world the same way--otherwise they would have given me the same problems you mentioned. <br /><br />I skimmed the Angelology page on Ms. Henley's site and from what I saw, I believe she was "sub-creating" (as Tolkien would say) a world in which angels were beings other than the real beings of the Bible (and our world). I didn't get the sense that she was trying to portray them "as they really are," but rather populating her world with beings that could just as easily have been called elves with wings.<br /><br />I wonder if the angels were a help or a hindrance to selling more books. I think among a lot of Christians, they would be difficult as you found them to be. I certainly saw them as a barrier to overcome.<br /><br />BeckyRebecca LuElla Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06823550402103559922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017008788024248921.post-50172170691379166242012-08-20T16:15:35.628-07:002012-08-20T16:15:35.628-07:00Interesting thoughts and something to think about....Interesting thoughts and something to think about.Meagan @ Blooming with Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15064663127323256501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017008788024248921.post-16957275329452415112012-08-20T13:04:34.778-07:002012-08-20T13:04:34.778-07:00Didn't have a problem with uses of different t...Didn't have a problem with uses of different terms i.e. "comain", because it lends a sense of otherness to the story. It's shorthand, way of quickly, efficiently taking the readers to another place. I do it all the time in my own writing, and I enjoy when it's done well in other books.<br /><br />As for angels, yes, I understand and agree with the argument that they are not portrayed in the novel as we know them from the Bible. However, I was expecting sappiness and the usual "angelology" that we've been fed (angels are the souls of the dead, for instance, or as the mysterious begins co-opted by New Age adherents). Instead, I read realistic characters in a deadly-serious world, and these angels are muscular rather than ethereal. I dig that.Keanan Brandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12638962927055276969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017008788024248921.post-82051756420250559422012-08-20T12:38:39.936-07:002012-08-20T12:38:39.936-07:00I never really thought about people having an issu...I never really thought about people having an issue with the angels. I didn't, but I can see where you're coming from. Shane Werlingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04757594099042217080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017008788024248921.post-12592415895305498522012-08-20T11:31:56.617-07:002012-08-20T11:31:56.617-07:00Thanks for the review, Julie. i didn't get to ...Thanks for the review, Julie. i didn't get to read this tour book, but your review makes it sound interesting.<br /><br />TimTimothy Hickshttp://fantasythyme.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017008788024248921.post-23685588239681082212012-08-20T09:22:52.027-07:002012-08-20T09:22:52.027-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Casey Sean Harmon (Bestselling author)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02046554377667938350noreply@blogger.com